[ExI] banning groups and preserving free speech

painlord2k at libero.it painlord2k at libero.it
Thu May 7 15:36:53 UTC 2009

Il 07/05/2009 6.00, Lee Corbin ha scritto:
> BillK wrote:

>> What sort of a society do you want to live in?
> Well, one of the first answers that comes to mind is,
> "one where one is permitted to say what he or she thinks".

This article could be interesting for the discussion:

Can We Ban Islam? - Legal Guidelines for the Criminalization of Islam in 
the United States

It point out to the "Supreme Court in 1878 in the case of Reynolds vs 
the United States" where "The Court found that while Reynolds had the 
right to believe that polygamy was his duty, he did not have the right 
to practice it-- thus upholding Jefferson’s distinction between action 
and belief. "

"Thus while we cannot charge someone with believing in Islam, we can 
stamp out many Islamic practices that are dangerous or abusive. The 
First Amendment does not protect religious practices that are illegal or 
made illegal, it protects only the beliefs themselves. "

"And we can go much further at an organizational level, based on the 
Sedition Act of 1918 and the 1954 Communist Control Act , which give us 
some guidelines for cracking down on Islam."

"The Internal Security Act of 1950, along with the 1954 Communist 
Control Act provides extensive legal grounds for criminalizing 
organizations dedicated to the overthrow of the United States, as well 
as membership in such organizations-- and even provides for the removal 
of citizenship from members of such organizations. "

It is interesting from a legal prospective.

Free speech is a fundamental right, but we must be able to differentiate 
free speech and actions.


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