[ExI] The mosque at Ground Zero

Fred C. Moulton moulton at moulton.com
Tue Aug 10 06:36:22 UTC 2010

On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 23:46 -0400, John Clark wrote:
> On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Keith Henson wrote:
> > I really doubt a significant number on this list think religions are
> > logical and moral.  
> You'd think so wouldn't you, and yet when I criticized a major world
> religion I received a huge amount of flack for doing so, and was even
> accused of being a bigot; I don't think some are quite as enlightened
> as they think they are.  

I have not read every message in the thread but the ones that I remember
were critical of what you wrote not because it criticized Islam but
because some of the criticism you made had errors of description, logic
or application.  There is a big difference between a valid criticism and
an invalid criticism; and often the invalid criticism is more of a
hindrance than a help.  Thus it is often the case that one of best ways
to work against something is to make sure that the list of criticisms
arrayed against it are valid. 

Personally I am getting a little tired of the characterization of people
who have attempted to correct the invalid criticisms as somehow being
"apologists for religion in general or Islam in particular" and similar
terms.  The nameless usage of terms like "apologist for Islam" is the
kind of corrosive which can harm the overall good ambiance of this list.
So if you honestly think there is anyone on this is an "apologist for
Islam" then reply to this message and please state their name to the
list so that they can respond.


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