[ExI] Max More - New CEO Alcor Life Extension Foundation

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at canonizer.com
Sat Dec 25 00:25:40 UTC 2010

Wow Jeff, sounds like some great ideas here.

As you may already know, we're working on a prioritized list of things 
extropians can do to make the world better here:


We don't yet have a entry for getting cryonics more mainstream, and 
getting more people preserved, what everyone thinks are the best ways to 
do this, and so on.  A cryonics to do item would be at the top of my 
list of most important things to do.  What about everyone else?

Would you care to formalize some of this a bit, and submit it as a 
starting draft for a new cryonics camp as something we should all or 
could all be supporting and working on and developing...?  We can't 
expect Max to do it all, we've all got to work together, and find out 
what everyone thinks are the best things we should all be working on, 
and all work together on all such.

Brent Allsop

On 12/24/2010 3:23 PM, Jeff Davis wrote:
> 2010/12/24 Natasha Vita-More<natasha at natasha.cc>:
>> It is my pleasure to announce that Max is the new CEO of Alcor!
> Congratulations, Max.
> I have two suggestions.
> One of your goals should be greater acceptance of cryonics by the
> mainstream, leading eventually to its adoption as the end-of-life*
> standard of care in conventional medicine.  To achieve this, embrace
> regulatory control. Do this by dragging Cryonics under conventional
> medicine's already robust regulatory regime.
> Professionalize all aspects of the practice. Declare it policy, and
> implement for cryonics "patients" the same rights and protections
> afforded conventional living patients.
> If you're really ambitious, create a more or less conventional HMO
> that includes cryonic suspension as an option.  An option which, if
> selected, generates a reduction in the overall cost of care (reduction
> in premium, rebated upon suspension).  The theory here is that end
> stage care is the most expensive part of a lifetime of health care
> costs.  If a person opts out of the heroic and massively expensive,
> grueling, tortuous, and largely ineffective end stage care, and opts
> instead for cryonic suspension, the cost savings can be refunded to
> the patient.
> Secondly, and perhaps more important, is a shift of focus regarding
> "enrollment" efforts -- that is, getting more "sign-ups".
> So long as cryonics lies outside the sphere of social acceptance,
> marketing to the end user will be a formidable task.  I suggest
> refocusing marketing efforts at "motivated" third parties, motivated
> by the desire to save the life of a loved one.  Such an individual is,
> in my view, far more likely to respond courageously to the challenge
> of social disapproval, than someone considering cryonic suspension for
> him or herself.  In my view, an appeal to heroism seems particularly
> promising because it affords the third party the two-fold
> satisfactions of saving the loved one, and being heroic in the fight
> to do so.
> * Obviously, I don't mean end of life, but it's the conventional term.
> Best of luck to you in your endeavors.
> Jeff Davis
>         "Everything's hard till you know how to do it."
>                                                 Ray Charles
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