[ExI] The alleged existence of consciousness

Spencer Campbell lacertilian at gmail.com
Mon Feb 15 21:45:48 UTC 2010

2010/2/15 Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com>:
> When you ask for a proof of consciousness, you validate the existence of it
> in your question.  I suggest rephrasing it in the manner you mean, which
> seems to boil down to "is any sort of dualism real?", an important question
> but not the same one.

But I don't mean it in that manner! I'm not asking for proof that
consciousness exists *at all*. I'm asking for proof that consciousness
exists *in a given system*.

So, thought experiment.

I'm going to jump in a box, and then ask you to prove that the box
contains consciousness. Can you? Can anyone?

(Obviously, if you jump in the box instead, I can not. But perhaps
this only means that I make a bad metrologist.)

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