[ExI] quantum brains
Damien Broderick
thespike at satx.rr.com
Mon Jan 18 23:11:37 UTC 2010
On 1/18/2010 4:14 PM, Serafino cited:
> -> http://physicsandcake.wordpress.com/2010/01/04/quantum-brains/
which links to
<http://nonstopbison.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/can-an-artificial-general-intelligence-arise-from-a-purely-classical-software-system/>
which has these nice Fermi comments:
<# Dave Bacon Says:
September 4, 2008 at 4:41 pm | Reply
A variant of this is to just append classical computational power of
modern computers to our own brain. If you had the laptop I’m typing this
on directly wired to your brain such that it could access some of your
current thinking processes, then you’d be able to do some pretty amazing
things. I mean if I could quickly do the number crunching I periodically
write programs to carry out, well then, I’d be a fundamentally different
intelligence wouldn’t I? Of course I wouldn’t be able to factor
exceptionally fast…but a lot faster than I can factor right now :)
Maybe the reason we don’t see intelligences out there is that they have
all migrated to quantum brains and so they avoid any contact with
classical beings who will destroy their coherence…
# Geordie Says:
September 4, 2008 at 4:51 pm | Reply
Hi Dave! Yes you’re right, although it is possible that the
number-crunching powers of our laptops could evolve in biological brains
if there were sufficient selection pressure on these capabilities.
I’m not sure if you were joking about that last bit, but it seems likely
that “migrating to quantum brains” would include decoupling from
environments… maybe the end-point of the evolution of intelligence is
floating in perfectly isolated spheres in deep outer space…
You know, you could take this idea a step further. Let’s say there are a
set of increasingly accurate but also increasingly difficult to “see”
physical theories T_1, T_2, … where T_1 is classical physics, T_2 is
quantum mechanics, T_3 is quantum gravity, T_4 is some crazy membrane
whatnot, etc… imagine you can get increasing computational capability at
every level of this hierarchy. Since each is increasingly “difficult to
see” for its precursors, in order to harness the capabilities at level
T_j you probably have to do a lot to make sure those “hard to see”
effects can be used, which probably isolates you from the precursor
levels…. in this picture the quantum brains would isolate themselves
from the classical brains, and the quantum gravity brains (needing of
course to be near black holes) would be hidden to the two precursor
levels, etc. etc. etc.>
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