[ExI] dolphins making tools and developing a technology: RE: Psi and gullibility

Isabelle Hakala ismirth at gmail.com
Thu Jan 28 13:52:58 UTC 2010


Here is the youtube for the bird/nut/walkway thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKvPPi0F_JY
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Isabelle Hakala
"Any person who says 'it can't be done' shouldn't be interrupting the people
getting it done."
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2010/1/27 <ablainey at aol.com>

>  Have you seen the birds that have not only discovered they can drop nuts
> on the road and
> passing cars will crack them. but also that if they drop the nuts at a
> pedestrian crossing.
> They can wait for the cars to stop at the light so they can retrieve tha
> nuts without
> risking getting run over!
>
> I can't remember whether they were Crows or Magpies. Either way corvids
> have to be up
> there with the smartest of animals.
>
> Also in London, some pigeons use the underground to travel between nesting
> and feeding sites.
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: spike <spike66 at att.net>
> To: 'ExI chat list' <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Sent: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:59
> Subject: [ExI] dolphins making tools and developing a technology: RE: Psi
> and gullibility
>
>
>
>
> The psi discussion here has produced an insight: if a phenomenon exists but
>
> we haven't the memetic infrastructure to support it, we wouldn't recognize
>
> it even if we saw it.  We would seek alternative explanations, as I do with
>
> psi.
>
>
> In my misspent youth I recall being taught that humans were the only tool
>
> users, but that the notion was being challenged.  As a fallback, the text
>
> book claimed that humans are definitely the only tool makers.  Now we know
>
> plenty of nonhuman beasts do that too.
>
>
> Check this way cool dolphin behavior:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ50PYMXDCQ
>
>
> Note that the guy making the mud ring does not himself get fed, but the
>
> others do.  So this requires some rethinking of our evolutionary memeset.
>
>
> spike
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