[ExI] New York Times piece on cryonics, featuring Robin Hanson & Peggy

Natasha Vita-More natasha at natasha.cc
Tue Jul 13 13:51:26 UTC 2010


Yes, you are correct that "suspensnded" is a hope for death reversal.  

Thanks. 


Natasha Vita-More

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Peggy

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 07:23:49PM -0400, natasha at natasha.cc wrote:
> Quoting Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com>:
>
>> Cryonics does not force anyone to die, nor does forbidding cryonics 
>> force anyone to die. Cryonics clients are, by definition, *dead* 
>> already.
>
> Cryonics patients are "suspended, not, by definition, *dead*.  It is 
> true that a legal "death certificate" must be made and signed by an 
> attending physician, medical examiner or coroner, but according to 
> cryonics, the person is suspended.

They're dead until such time as revival can actually be demonstrated.
That a cryonics patient is suspended and not dead is a hope, not a fact.

Or, they're dead, and there's hope that death will become reversible.

"That is not dead..."

-xx- Damien X-)
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