[ExI] Let's play What If.

Mike Dougherty msd001 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 13 02:08:23 UTC 2010


On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:07 AM,  <x at extropica.org> wrote:
> 2010/11/11 John Clark <jonkc at bellsouth.net>:
>> The only consciousness we can directly observe is our
>> own...
>
> John, I like your hard-edged no-nonsense approach to much of the
> content of this discussion, but your assertion that I quoted above
> highlights the incoherence at the very core demonstrated by you,
> Descartes, and many others. Such a singularity of self, with its
> infinite regress, can't be modeled as a physical system.  Nor is it
> needed.
>
> See Dennett for a cogent philosophical explanation, or Ismael &
> Pollock's nolipsism for a logical-semantic view, or Metzinger's Being
> No One for a very detailed exposition of the experimental evidence, or
> Hofstadter's Strange Loop for a sincere but more muddled account, or
> even Alan Watts' The Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are for a more
> intuitionist approach.
>
> Digest and integrate this thinking, and then we might be able to move
> this conversation forward with extension from a more coherent basis.


So Jef, let me ask if all those names you drop are saying that I
really AM the intersection of people who are identified as friends on
Facebook despite the fact that I may or may not know who they are?




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