[ExI] Millions of tons to space
eugen at leitl.org
Sun Apr 3 20:18:38 UTC 2011
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 11:37:30AM -0700, Keith Henson wrote:
> > I just don't understand how the foresight isn't in place already.
> The simple reason is that energy sources are expensive. Solar and
> wind are particularly so because they are dilute and only there part
If insolation on outer building skin is enough to drive the building
I don't call that dilute, I call that exactly right. A little bit
more than you can cool comfortably, and you've got failure modes
When production matches demand peak you can have 2% of total
produce >20% (17 GW of 85 GW peak) and allow you to switch
off nuclear and coal. Another decade of such growht, and
you'd get >100% of peak. Sure, you'd have to cover with gas
turbines and micro co-gen for really dark, windstill days.
> If there were a way to get solar energy for less than the cost of
> coal, gas or nuclear, then it would happen, but for the most part
It is already there sometimes and in location. Give it less than
10 years for Mid-Europe.
> people just don't know how to do it, or in one case, (SBSP) the front
> end cost to get the transportation cost down is in the $100 B range.
> But you won't see a lot of discussion here or any other place I know
> about that gets into the details. I guess it's just too hard and
> people will not take the effort to understand it even if they are
This used to surprise me, but no longer does.
> The few people of influence who do understand what we are up against
> seem to be expecting a population collapse.
So what? We've done it before, a few times, in fact.
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