[ExI] Efficiency of wind power

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Fri Apr 8 10:16:39 UTC 2011

On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 09:51:57PM -0500, Damien Broderick wrote:
> On 4/7/2011 8:51 PM, spike jones wrote:
>> Nobel laureate
>> Luis Alvarez describes an experiment they were doing at Berkeley (as I
>> recall from reading it over 20 yrs ago), in the mid 1950s.  They couldn't
>> explain it, but there appeared to be excess heat being generated.
> My understanding is that some serious, experienced physicists are  
> reporting that they see unexplained excess heat from Rossi's set-up. If  

That's just the point: it's Rossi's setup. 

> that is true and isn't due to some overlooked glitch, while nuclear  
> explanations are inapplicable, it just means that some other kind of  
> account is needed (maybe of some new sort).

My guess it's a hidden power line or he's otherwise feeding
the device with external power, or energetic material.

> I'm always surprised when science buffs think that "It can't be due to  
> X" means that an observed phenomenon therefore doesn't exist, or if it  
> does exist it can't be anomalous, must be due to fraud or carelessness  
> or stupidity. Yes, often that will be the case. The history of science  
> shows that often enough it *isn't* the case.

I genuinely hope you're not as gullible as this in your daily life.
The crooks would otherwise have a field day.

> In this instance, it looks to me as if time, and lots of scrutiny, will  
> tell; it's too soon to bit-bucket the claim. Since it's already had  
> quite a lot of initial scrutiny without falling over, it is interesting  
> enough to track.

The only moment it will become interesting is when it will be
replicated elsewhere and published in a peer-reviewed journal.

Before it's about as interesting as a dog barking outside.

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