[ExI] US traffic deaths dropped to new low

Samantha Atkins sjatkins at mac.com
Fri Apr 8 20:05:24 UTC 2011

A good site on robocars, their variations and many associated issues and 
possible ways forward is at


On 04/08/2011 12:41 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:05:57PM -0600, Kelly Anderson wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, spike<spike66 at att.net>  wrote:
>>> I predict we will not see
>>> auto-autos in the next couple decades at least.
>> Sweet! Want to go on Stewart Brand's Long Now web site and make a wager? :-)
>> I can't imagine a case where autonomous vehicles aren't the default in
>> 2025. People are just too slow, too inattentive (and getting worse),
> That's just 14 years away. You *might* get some autonomous vehicles
> and armor for the military. Which don't have to deal with liability,
> unlike truckers and delivery guys.
>> and too drunk at times to drive cars as safely as a good computerized
>> system.
> It will take many lawsuits until people will eventually get there.
>> And yes, I agree with BillK that initially it will be something the
>> driver initiates when he feels comfortable.
> So what happens when the system disengages, and the driver isn't
> ready, or says he isn't ready, and something happens, for parts
> irrelevant? Blame assignment is a a game a lot like ballistic feces.

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