[ExI] Did Hugo de Garis leave the field?
hkeithhenson at gmail.com
Tue Apr 19 20:44:04 UTC 2011
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:43:24PM -0700, Samantha Atkins wrote:
>>> He sounds like a creationist.
>> Actually, what was said is exactly correct. We can't fully spec out an
>> AGI ("traditional blueprint"). It must recursively self-improve. I
>> thought this was and has been accepted information in these circles for
>> a very long time now.
> My beef was with the idea that a more advanced system is
> required to produce a less advanced. This is trivially
> untrue, because darwinian evolution is extremely stupid,
> yet since you can read this message it most assuredly
> does work.
That's because the present NI (natural intelligences) come in two
parts, a hardware that self extracts from the genome, and a knowledge
base/software that gets loaded from past evolutionary accumulations of
culture. Both are needed.
> I have never believed into recursive self-improvement.
> Nobody is that smart. You just bump up the boundary
> condition, and let emergence handle the rest.
View as a whole, recursive self-improvement is exactly what culture
has been doing since the days when chipping rocks was high tech.
And, yes, the number of people in a culture makes a big difference in
the boundary conditions.
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