[ExI] Fermi question, was is a FTL drive a dream . . .

[Eugen Leitl]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 01:32:29PM -0700, Kelly Anderson wrote:

> > Yes, but this is religion. We don't do religion here.
> 
> I disagree. This is philosophy, not religion. And we do philosophy here. Nick
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_argument

Yes, I was talking why statistical probabilities don't
work in case of perfectly biased self-measurements in Fermi
and the simulation argument. I'm glad somebody has been
paying attention.
 
> Peter Ludlow is also making some interesting forays into this from the
> bottom up, so to speak
> http://www.nuintel.net/features/between-two-worlds/

Thanks, haven't seen that before.
 
> >> being in a simulation, but testing ends the simulation (and the
> >> universe as we know it) so it might not be something you want to try.
> >
> > So the pesky rodents gets terminated when they get too uppity, and
> > realize they've been living in cage #9?
> >
> > Occam sez: I will cut you.
> 
> Occam actually comes down on the side that we're already in a
> simulation... if you really think about it hard enough.

You must go deeper ;)