[ExI] Libertarianism wins again...

[spike]

>... On Behalf Of Samantha Atkins
...Subject: Re: [ExI] Libertarianism wins again...

On 07/20/2011 08:47 AM, Will Steinberg wrote:

>> Because I can guarantee your libertarian paradise will never exist. 
>>  Now, more then ever, a benevolent controlling force is needed to make 
>> sure things proceed in the right direction.  Do you not have the drive 
>> to become it?  Because I will, if you don't.

>...Benevolent controlling force?  If it is so benevolent why does it need
to be forced?  What sort of entity is so hyper intelligent it can always
make the best decision, better than any local and immediately concerned
actors?  Can't be an AGI as local AGIs would still have more information and
more immediate focused reaction times than more central ones.  I think you
would have to go to some mystical being to claim this is the best solution
without obvious issues (other than mystical claptrap that is).  - s


Exactly, Samantha, you hit it right on.  Perfectly sound advice: go to some
mystical being.  The benevolent controlling force is a church, synagogue,
temple or mosque.  They exert a controlling force (in a loose sense) over
the lives of the clients, participation is completely voluntary (in most
cases), they offer a paradise even if they fail to actually deliver, they at
least seem benevolent, to their own clientele.  

Will asserts a benevolent controlling force is needed.  They exist.  In
fact, you can even be an atheist and still be part of one.  The Buddhists
don't require belief in a god or gods, nor even the supernatural.  Go, join,
with my sincere blessing, and I really mean it.  I have visited the
Buddhists, listened to their pitch and I do very much say they are an
admirable bunch, nice, clean, generous, upstanding, honest and good.  If you
listen to the actual philosophy and don't take their version of prayer too
seriously, I doubt it will hurt you.

spike