[ExI] the success of socialized medicine

[Damien Sullivan]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:55:30PM -0400, Rafal Smigrodzki wrote:

> >> ### No, it isn't, because it kills people.
> >
> > Funny how just about all the people with "socialized medicine" live longer
> > than Americans do. ??This must be some novel use of "kills people" with
> > which I am not familiar.
> 
> ### No, they don't. Most countries whose healthcare systems are even
> more socialized than US (i.e. more than about 70% of all transactions
> directly controlled by the government) have a lower life-expectancy
> than Americans, especially after controlling for race. Conversely,

You are provably wrong, as is common knowledge among everyone who knows
anything about international healtcare comparisons.  You should really
reconsider your epistemology if it lets you believe things like this.
http://mindstalk.net/socialhealth
The US has lower life expectancy than almost every other rich country,
while spending nearly twice as much per capita.  Controlling for race
doesn't change that much.

> countries with less socialized medicine, after controlling for income,
> tend to have better outcomes than the US.

Citation needed.  Or hell, even names of qualifying countries and what
outcomes these are.

-xx- Damien X-)