[ExI] Capitalism, anti capitalism, emotional arousal

[Giovanni Santostasi]

I fully support Zero State stance on capitalism.
Giovanni

2011/11/10 Amon Zero <amon at doctrinezero.com>

> On 10 November 2011 12:03, Henry Rivera <hrivera at alumni.virginia.edu>wrote:
>
>> Wow! How interesting it is to see everyone get all worked up about Zero
>> State's development of an ideology, which I might add is still a work in
>> progress. My view is that capitalism is a means to an end which will become
>> obsolete after a certain tipping point. There is nothing anyone can do
>> about that, so in this sense Zero State is just ahead of the curve in
>> explicitly welcoming this. An attempt to show that a political system can
>> function without capitalistic values is worthwhile. "Unfettered capitalism"
>> could improve things in the interim but will eventually become obsolete
>> politically as well. The target of current contempt as I see it is
>> systematic oppression of millions of people facilitated by capitalism as it
>> currently exists driven by greed. Consider the data released this week in
>> the US indicating 16% or 49 million people in the US live below or near the
>> poverty line, which is $22,000USD for a family of four. Can anyone really
>> defend that in this modern age particu!
>>  larly in a first world country? On the other hand, people working within
>> the current system will argue their accumulation of wealth is fair game;
>> they are playing by the rules (which they helped to create I might add,
>> which is the nature of oppression and built into the system in the US where
>> there is little to limit financial influence of legislators by the wealthy
>> relative to Europe for example). Zero State is taking the position that the
>> logical solution is a new system that doesn't facilitate the rich getting
>> richer by rewarding greed and oppression. Anyone who read Amon's whole
>> statement will see this is not an anti free trade position. It's more about
>> the activity of free trade as it functions in our current political system.
>> Calling that anti-capitalist certainly pushed some buttons and will likely
>> change based on recent discussion. As I said the development of this new
>> ideology is a work in progress. Contribute. It's your future too. If the
>> direction of Zero State i!
>>  s not your cup of tea, propose and implement your own solutions to
>> compete. Complacency and tolerance of oppression is despicable to me.
>> -Henry
>>
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>
> Henry, I'll get you that $100 on the weekend.
>
> ;-)
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