[ExI] Manning and Assange

spike spike66 at att.net
Fri Aug 24 04:39:17 UTC 2012



>... On Behalf Of Keith Henson

>> ...So the point of all this is that a soldier or sailor must recognize 
> the difference between legal orders and illegal ones.  To witness a 
> war crime and not report it is a war crime.

>..."Collateral Murder" should be easy to find...

OK found it, saw enough of it to know what it is.  I don't see that Julian
did anything illegal about posting that, nor PFC Manning, for the video
isn't marked as classified.  Classified info must be marked as such,
otherwise it isn't.

>....Because of what Manning did, you can watch it yourself and decide if
the gunship engaged in a war crime and make the judgment if Manning was
obligated to make it public since people far up the chain were trying to
keep what he thought of as a war crime under wraps...  Keith
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It looks like a war crime to me.  This is what the video made me think of:
the modern military really emphasizes law and order.  We have these advanced
systems now, IR vision enhanced multispectral this and that, such that
helicopters can thump around so far away from the target no one even knows
they are in the area, and still be able to identify a target, in complete
darkness, and destroy whatever they choose.  We can never trust anyone with
that advanced weaponry until it is established that they are
super-disciplined follow all legal orders exactly and carefully types, no
exceptions.

Keith what ever came of this case?

spike




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