[ExI] H+ Census- why it matters to know if you matter.

John Grigg possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 13 04:42:34 UTC 2012

I do know that the Mormon Transhumanist Association does it's own
census, which asks its members their stats and views regarding a number of


On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:56 PM, The Avantguardian <
avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does anybody have a clue how many total people are involved in
> transhumanism-related movements in the United States and worldwide? We have
> a pretty large Internet presence but there are so many orgs and sites with
> a lot of lurkers and overlap of membership, so its difficult to estimate
> actual numbers. Therefore I propose that we conduct an H+ census.
> This would accomplish a lot of things. First it would give us a benchmark
> of how much the movement has grown over the years. Also it would give us an
> idea how much bargaining power we as a movement have in the state capitals
> of the world and the global marketplace. I think this is an important first
> step toward us collectively wielding any kind collective influence in
> society. And I think that we will need to wield collective influence in
> order to achieve any semblance of the future we all want.
> To give you an idea of what I mean, the Individual Health Insurance
> Mandate has been voted into law in the U.S. and is going into effect in
> 2014. Considering that Obama care was based on Romney-care, and Romney is
> the media favorite, you can see that the insurance lobby has made
> engineered a win-win Presidential election for itself.
> Now if we as a movement continue as we have an unorganized fractious
> diffuse mess, then those of us who will be affected by the Individual
> Mandate will have to purchase some over-priced cookie-cutter health
> insurance policy that we don't really want. If you buy insurance as an
> individual you get screwed. But if we could organize ourselves into an
> actual transhumanist bloc of insurance customers, we could get group health
> rate discounts and other perks. Like maybe a choice between hospice care
> or cryogenic suspension for the terminally ill. Or we could get a blood
> glucose meter without having diabetes so you can monitor your blood sugar
> and prevent yourself from getting diabetes in the first place. Or maybe
> even get off label-presciptions for enhancement like Ritalin before an
> exam.
> So if somebody has an estimated headcount, please state it. Also if you
> have ideas on how we could use free Internet resources such as google
> groups or a social media site to conduct an accurate H+ Census, that would
> be great.
> Stuart LaForge
> "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson
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