[ExI] He's Back - Carrico's continued ranting

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Sun Jun 17 01:05:03 UTC 2012


In particular read
"Shall we bet ? " among the Cosmicomics stories:

"This situation began to change when, in the protogalaxies, the protostars
started condensing, and I quickly realized where it would all end, with
that temperature rising all the time, and so I said: "Now they're going to
catch fire."
"Nuts!" the Dean said.
"Want to bet?" I said.
"Anything you like," he said, and wham, the darkness was shattered by all
these incandescent balls that began to swell out.
"Oh, but that isn't what catching fire means. . ." (k)yK began, quibbling
about words in his usual way.
By that time I had developed a system of my own, to shut him up: "Oh, no?
And what does it mean then, in your opinion?"
He kept quiet: lacking imagination as he did, when a word began to have
one meaning, he couldn't conceive of its having any other.
Dean (k)yK, if you had to spend much time with him, was a fairly boring
sort, without any resources, he never had anything to tell. Not that I, on
the other hand, could have told much, since events worth telling about had
never happened, or at least so it
appeared to us. The only thing was to frame hypotheses, or rather:
hypothesize on the possibility of framing hypotheses. Now, when it came to
framing hypotheses of
hypotheses, I had much more imagination than the Dean, and this was both an
advantage and a disadvantage, because it led me to make riskier bets, so
that you might say our probabilities of winning were even.
As a rule, I bet on the possibility of a certain event's taking place,
whereas the Dean almost always bet against it. He had a static sense of
reality, old (k)yK, if I may express myself in these terms, since between
static and dynamic at that time there wasn't
the difference there is nowadays, or in any case you had to be very careful
in grasping it, that difference."


Old Dean (k)yK, fairly boring sort, without any resources and
imagination reminds of somebody, same for you?

Giovanni





On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
<gsantostasi at gmail.com>wrote:

> Not sure if you have ever read these stories, but even if not exactly
> transhumanist in theme, they talk about how existence can embody different
> forms and places, in the vast cosmic play. I think somebody should write
> similar stories to describe how consciousness would be embodied in higher
> forms of being as the universal saga continues from existing all crowded in
> One Point at the Big Bang times to the time we will play with galaxies like
> if they were chips on the cosmic casino: here the complete Italo Calvino 's
> Cosmicomics:
> http://irenebrination.typepad.com/files/calvino-italo-cosmicomics.pdf
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 7:29 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
>
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>> *>… Behalf Of *Giovanni Santostasi
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>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] He's Back - Carrico's continued ranting****
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>> >…Next project is to write a transhumanist version of Italo Calvino
>> Cosmic-Comics.****
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>> The critics should not be the only ones that can laugh at our expenses we
>> should laugh about ourselves too.   Giovanni****
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>> Giovanni, I had to look up your reference to Italo Calvino, and saw he is
>> a comedian of some sort.  I have been thinking of comedy as a vehicle for
>> ideas.  Your reference reminded me of a brilliant comic strip character we
>> had here in the early 90s, Calvin and Hobbes.  The strip ended 17 years
>> ago, but I still see people reading the complied books to this day.
>> Watterson introduced plenty of thought-provoking ideas through those
>> characters.  Cartooning seems like such a terrific way of aiding meme
>> penetration.****
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>> spike****
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