[ExI] Of Flying Cars and the Declining Rate of Profit

[Giovanni Santostasi]

Spike,
you still don't address the question of what happens with the robots do all
the menial tasks.
Can you give me a piece of you mind on that?

Giovanni


On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 7:09 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *On Behalf Of *Giovanni Santostasi
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Of Flying Cars and the Declining Rate of Profit****
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> >…I think too much competition (and narrow minded goals) is the problem
> not the good thing about capitalism…****
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> Cool, we can find out which is best.  Let’s have a competition.****
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> >… Plus is not really true this form of capitalism (corporatism) is
> always fostering competition, not at least healthy forms of competition,
> there are so many monopolies and nested companies…****
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> Ja!  A wonderful mix is seen, with competitors sometimes working together
> to whoop a third competitor, then more competitors forming defacto teams to
> devour others.  Constructive chaos ensues.  In the very long run, even the
> losers win, because they leave the loser company and join the guy that
> whooped them.  Then they work together on the better products that won
> before.****
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> >…Sometime humans need to cooperate instead of competing to achieve
> grandiose goals…****
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> Exactly!  This is what capitalism does so very well: people work together,
> cooperate to compete, the best products rise to the top and make the
> winners rich!  Young people see the winners, and want to be like them.
> When we were kids who would have guessed that the geek would inherit the
> earth?  Yet here was Bill Gates, and it would be hard to imagine a geekier
> guy, who ends up owning everything that is worth having.  You and I reap
> the benefits, and to some extent pay the price.  Life is good.****
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> >…Even great national collaborative efforts, like early space
> exploration, that seemed propelled by international competition with other
> nations was actually killed by it when the space race was perceived to be
> won…****
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> Ja, the big manned rocket systems were funded because it developed for us
> the ability to lift weapons and deliver them to the bad guys, and the
> control systems to steer them accurately on their way.  Turns out we didn’t
> need to do that, but we got the rocket systems and advanced control systems
> out of the deal.  The fact that we and the commies developed these advanced
> rockets and nukes meant we didn’t need to face each other on the
> battlefield and hurl chunks of metal at each other.  Now we really don’t
> need to do that at all (even though some primitive savages are still doing
> it.)  ****
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> In evolution, there is the term preadaptation, an example being feathers
> evolved as heat retention mechanisms, but eventually worked great for
> flying.  Our rockets were developed for lifting nukes, but eventually
> worked great for flying.****
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> >…If the goal was that of competing with one self, to go to the next step
> civilizations would have higher and more ambitious goals.  Giovanni****
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> Economically whooping ass can be a higher and more ambitious goal.  In the
> long run, competition is our friend.****
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> spike****
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