[ExI] see you on Retroshare

[Eugen Leitl]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:38:57PM +0200, Anders Sandberg wrote:

> So I suspect it is uphill for most crypto-communities even when
> people see their point. But it is not a guaranteed failure, and
> having a few alternatives around is useful and might even force
> market leaders to be honest to some extent (consider how linux as an

Market leaders can't be honest by definition (because they 
are registered entities subject to state regulations and
strongarming behind the scenes). Which is why Debian is 
much preferrable to Ubuntu.

This is is not to say that e.g. the secret on
http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html is secure,
or that they can't rubberhose Theo or pull a
stealthy http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/20/freebsd_breach/

> alternative affected Apple and Microsoft).

You can be certain that all proprietary systems are 
backdoored by design.