[ExI] Extraterrestrial liberty and colonising the universe

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Mon Jun 24 09:44:40 UTC 2013


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 08:55:58AM +0200, Tomaz Kristan wrote:
> A massive error checking and redundancy can suppress evolution of any kind.

But it doesn't prevent the rest of us from using darwinian
systems which are nonbrittle, and hence antifragile.

So not only does this prevent the scenario, the brittle
strain self-terminates over time and space.
 
> What does the state of the  Fermi paradox tells us? It tells us, that
> evolution, at least interesting evolution of the complex machines is rare
> or almost not present in the Universe.
> 
> Evolution is easy to prevent. Its somehow already prevented almost
> everywhere - naturally.

Duh -- higher life is easily killed.
 
> A probe with the wrong checksum should destroy itself. Better, shouldn't be
> able to function in the first place. Very much like the nuclear weapons are
> functioning for decades. A malfunction in an accidentally  fallen bomb will
> NOT ENABLE the explosion. It must be enabled by a complicated procedure, a
> small error is fatal in that process.
> 
> With this principle on steroids, evolution isn't a problem at all.

You're forgetting that we're operating in a darwinian regime.
You need to show how a population bottleneck gives rise to a population
of dispersive but sterile (and sterilizing, since the point of origin
would still be fertile) diaspora.
 
> They say, everything change, except the change is eternal. Well, this is
> about to change! After a certain threshold, a cosmic super-civilization
> must freeze itself on the present state. No more progress!

Some intermediate steps are missing.
 
> No big deal. It's a small prize to pay for the whole Universe. Many
> Tranhumanist don't like that at least, I know. They start with the usual
> mantra how horrible is to be wireheaded, as they weren't already for the
> entire history of the Universe.
> 
> P.S.
> 
> I have a blog now.
> 
> www.protokol2020.wordpress.com
> 
> Maybe some of you may be interested in reading it.

So many blogs, so little time.



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