[ExI] Double-Earth (Was: kepler study says 8.8e9 earthlike planets)
Anders Sandberg
anders at aleph.se
Sun Nov 17 18:39:31 UTC 2013
On 2013-11-17 16:59, Tomaz Kristan wrote:
> This deep vents life we know on Earth, needs oxygen. It gets it from
> green plants in our case. Worth to remember.
No problem really, since either you could have an oxidizing atmosphere
courtesy of surface algae, or a reducing environment with some
alternative electron transport solutions.
For example Anammox bacteria turn ammonia into nitrogen without any
oxygen need (they use nitrites instead), Thiobacillus denitrificans turn
sulphur into sulphates using nitrates, hydrogen bacteria turn hydrogen
into water using sulphates, while phosphite bacteria convert phosphite
into phosphate using sulphate, metanogens turn hydrogen into water using
carbon dioxide, and the carboxydotropic bacteria convert carbon monoxide
into carbon dioxide while turning water into hydrogen. If you have a
good, strong flow of volcanic chemicals you can build a pretty
functional ecosystem even without any oxygen.
This is why I think dry Double-Earth will be a nicer place for life than
wet Double-Earth: the heavier volcanism will really add a proper
chemical outflow that will last for a long time no matter how the
surface looks. While wet Double-Earth will stop continental drift after
about 3 gigayears and then have the ice-crust become increasingly inert.
Without heavy volcanism the sea will become very stratified and the ice
will insulate it from the rocks, making the mineral content low. The
total sea volume is also much bigger (at least a factor of 10), making
it even harder to get any heavier atoms.
Note that life might still thrive on Wet. Even if one thinks it is
unlikely to originate there it could spread through panspermias, and
once established on the surface it can use photosynthesis to grab CHON
into structures that catch the rare heavier atoms needed. (e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siderophore ) But it will be largely
limited to the surface layer: just four times Earth's area, and well
mixed so that there will be fewer species. Dry at the very least can run
two near-independent ecosystem layers plus some stuff in-between.
Intelligence evolution... well, I don't think I know enough to say
anything.
(In Charles Stross' "Neptune's Brood" there is Shin-Tethys, a waterworld
relatively similar to Wet, although the higher amount of radioactives in
the rocky core plays a fun role in the ecosystem/economy. However, when
we chatted he admitted he did not do any elaborate calculations for the
planet. His ecosystem also seems to be at least partially escaped
nanotech. I suspect that one could tweak my model to have a much denser
and more radioactive core and get something more like it. )
--
Dr Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford Martin School
Oxford University
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