[ExI] A Gedanken Rational Eugenics Experiment (AGREE)

rex rex at nosyntax.net
Mon Oct 28 09:23:18 UTC 2013

Kelly Anderson <kellycoinguy at gmail.com> [2013-10-27 11:22]:
>   On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Anders Sandberg <[1]anders at aleph.se>
>   wrote:
>     Note that you would need to pay *a lot*. The below 1 SD population is
>     around 15%, so in the US that would be about 47 million people you need
>     to pay off. I am not sure what the going price for getting sterilized
>     is, but at least I expect it to be on the order of a few thousand
>     dollars - 
>   There is a successful private endeavor to sterilize female drug addicts
>   for as little as $300.
>   [2]http://www.projectprevention.org

Hello Kelly,

Note that the organization also offers payment for long-term birth
control, which is IMO a much better option. Sterilization, like suicide,
is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

>   Unfortunately, low IQ apparently is negatively correlated with drug use.
>   At least in one study.
>   [3]http://www.ibtimes.com/smart-people-illegal-drugs-intelligent-people-dont-always-do-right-thing-371056

Careful. The study finds an odds ratio > 1 for high IQ & drug use, but it 
does not follow that low IQ has a negative correlation with drug
use. To see why, consider a "\__/" shaped relationship between IQ and drug
use. If that were the case, both high- and low-IQs would have a positive
correlation with drug use.

Statistical inference is a slippery subject.

There are two kinds of geniuses: the "ordinary" and the "magicians."  An
ordinary genius is a fellow whom you and I would be just as good as, if we
were only many times better.  There is no mystery as to how his mind works. 
Once we understand what they've done, we feel certain that we, too, could
have done it.  It is different with the magicians.  Even after we understand
what they have done it is completely dark.  Richard Feynman is a magician of
the highest calibre. --Mark Kac  

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