[ExI] comments please regarding snoopy-doopy.gov

[spike]

>. On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes
Subject: Re: [ExI] comments please regarding snoopy-doopy.gov

 

On Oct 29, 2013 11:06 AM, "spike" <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
>>. The IRS had most of this data, but the IRS is not the government.  They
are not allowed to share what they know.  They sometimes do, if the victim
is a Tea Party type or a Republican, but it is illegal

>.If you believe the NSA would set up HealthCare.gov as a data collection
operation, how then do you not believe they have full access to all IRS
records, with or without the knowledge (let alone consent) of anyone
employed by the IRS?

Regardless, it is all about need to know.  In the space biz, classified info
is carefully compartmentalized.  You sometimes hear a rocket scientist make
comments like "my job is so secret I don't even know what I am doing."  It
is funny because it isn't far from the truth.  Plenty of guys supply
components who do not know or care what the final application is going to
be.  They are given a set of specs, they meet them, they get paid.  When
others inside the company ask questions, it is the engineer's responsibility
to verify they have a need to know.

When I saw the kinds of questions they were asking on HealthCare.gov, I
struggled in vain to figure out why they would need to know any of it.
Three security questions?  Why?  I never did figure out the need to know,
and I damn sure will not offer it freely to an organization which has known
fifth-takers, Tea Party suppressors and confidential data leakers.  The IRS
is corrupt.  Don't offer them data.

Here's what they should have done to start with.  Instead of coming up with
a claim that the federal government has the authority to order citizens to
buy something (an argument as shaky as a twerking cheerleaders hind
quarters) then having it overthrown by the court but upheld as a tax (which
has its own set of new problems) they should have set it up under the clause
with allows the draft.  When that was first used during the Civil War,
anyone who had a ton of money could pay someone else to take their place;
you could buy your way out of military service.  Plenty of rich guys did so.
OK no problem: draft everyone between the ages of 18 and 50, with the
provision that you can buy your way out with a health insurance policy or an
opt-out (of the army) fee, the proceeds of which would be then be used to
subsidize the poor.  Declare the individual mandate not a tax, but rather an
option to not go to the army.  Problem solved.

spike

 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/attachments/20131029/d02bb4a2/attachment.html>