[ExI] How to make progress (was Re: Why do political and economic leaders deny Peak Oil and Climate Change?)

Lloyd Miller lloydmillerus at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 8 00:43:50 UTC 2013

Peak Oil and Climate Change is OPEC propaganda to keep the price of oil up.

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Subject: Re: [ExI] How to make progress (was Re: Why do political and
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On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 02:27:52PM -0600, Brent Allsop wrote:

> Why is it that people are so willing to put so much time, effort and 
> pain on possibly critically important things like this, when there are 
> better ways to go about this and get something done. Sure, there could 
> be some existential threat out there, but if there is is this the best 
> way to go about it?

A number of people are seeing a crtical problem ahead, yet the majority
doesn't. In order to solve the problem it however requires the action of the
majority. This thing is way too big for people, or municipalities.
This is nation-state, nay, planet-scale.

Therein lies the problem. We are yeast. Don't hate on
so much. Try some suspension of disbelief, and as a working hypothesis
assume it's modelling many aspects that are true.

What is the best way to go about it? It seems that we've ran out of options
but at personal and small community level due to the reasons outlined above.

Even knowing that doesn't help much, since most of us are locked in a
precarious configuration it will hurt to change short-term. 
Yet by acting too late we will not be able to effect that transition.

It seems the best strategy now is to act ruthless, bold and selfish, and
make your exit while you still can. The exit must involve building a
mutually supportive rural community. This is an alien concept to many.

Here my fortune cookie ends. In case yours says something else, let's
compare notes (please no discussions about how it's all unreal; because:
nazis wear nice leather uniforms).
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