[ExI] BICEP2 and the Fermi paradox

[Alfio Puglisi]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com>wrote:

> > But is now the true year 2014, or a simulation of 2014 run in the year
> 4,982,944?
>
> Is this the true year 4,982,944 with the simulation of 2014, or just a
> simulation of all that, run in the year 4,982,945?
>
>

I am reminded of this SF short story:

http://qntm.org/responsibility


A bit of handwaving on the technical details, but I found it very
entertaining.


Alfio








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> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Anders Sandberg <anders at aleph.se> wrote:
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>> Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com> , 9/4/2014 8:56 PM:
>>
>> The reason, I am not in an ancestral simulation may be the following:
>>
>> Since our civilization is a very early one, nobody is making them (those
>> simulations) - yet.
>>
>> It's the question, will anyone ever make them, but nobody is making them
>> now.
>>
>>
>> But is now the true year 2014, or a simulation of 2014 run in the year
>> 4,982,944? (where it is being run in a M-brain server together with a
>> billion others) If it is the latter there are indeed ancestor sims being
>> done now (externally chronologically speaking). Our own (as observed by us)
>> civilizational age doesn't give much information about the real
>> civilizational age of the outside.
>>
>> The earliness part is also problematic. Presumably there will be more
>> simulations of interesting eras, so the far past is probably going to be
>> simulated less than exciting times like the run-up to the singularity. I
>> think one can make a good argument that our era is more consistently
>> exciting than all known past eras, so given what we know we look like a
>> likely simulation candidate compared to 10th century Europe or Africa 1300
>> BC. Maybe there are way more 400BC Athens than 21st century worlds, but
>> that was a far smaller spatiotemporal domain than the current glorious,
>> awful mess.
>>
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>>
>> Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of
>> Oxford University
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