[ExI] turing movie

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Fri Aug 8 09:12:07 UTC 2014

re "To this day, that government has failed to fully own the shame of
that disgraceful affair." - some time ago the UK government said (in
perfect British style;-) that Turing's homosexual lifestyle was
illegal at the time, so legally speaking he deserved punishment. Of
course, they distanced themselves from the UK laws of the 1950s.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:49 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf
> Of Harvey Newstrom
>>...Turing was only 40 years old and still working on secret cryptography
> for the British government when he was arrested for being gay... the
> government that he helped in defeating the Nazis decided that *Turing* was
> the security threat and that to protect our way of life, *he* should be
> barred from any further work on government encryption programs.  He was dead
> of an apparent suicide two years later...
> --
> Harvey Newstrom   www.HarveyNewstrom.com
> _______________________________________________
> No doubt they will tell the rest of it, as they should.
> I haven't followed the research, but last I heard there is reasonable doubt
> Turing committed suicide.  I don't know how the theory has held up; perhaps
> someone here knows or knows a reference.  There is a possibility Turing
> perished by accidental poisoning from a chemistry experiment he was doing.
> My reasoning goes thus:  I am one who is deeply interested in many things.
> Doing any kind of experimentation is the physical manifestation of
> curiosity.  If one is sufficiently despondent to be driven to
> self-destruction, my intuition tells me that curiosity and experimentation
> would be the first casualty, and would have disappeared at least weeks
> before the suicide.  Perhaps psychology hipsters among us, such as BillW
> could comment, but it seems to me unlikely that one would go from performing
> chemistry experiments to suicide in the same week.
> This is not denying Turing was treated abominably for all the wrong reasons
> by the British government; clearly he was.  To this day, that government has
> failed to fully own the shame of that disgraceful affair.  Perhaps a good
> cinematic treatment of Turing's life, which just tells the unembellished
> truth, will help bring about resolution.
> spike
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