[ExI] The second step towards immortality

Martin Sustrik sustrik at 250bpm.com
Mon Jan 6 09:01:24 UTC 2014

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On 05/01/14 08:59, Anders Sandberg wrote:
> On 2014-01-05 07:33, Martin Sustrik wrote:
>> Btw, how would you even torture a virtual entity?
> By stimulating the right part of the somatosensory cortex or
> midbrain, or if you want to be more profound, the suffering-related
> subsets of the anterior cingulate. This might not work on a de novo
> AGI or radically altered posthuman, but brain emulations are just
> like human brains. And since plenty of us on the list want to
> escape mortality this way we have good reasons to ensure
> mindnapping and torture are hard.

Fair enough. If people actually want to live in a Second-Life-like
virtual environment that simulates ancestral living conditions, all
the existing concepts, including torture, apply.

To achieve that though, someone has to enforce the rules of the game
(how the brain is wired up, whether copying is possible etc.) The
options are:

1. Rules are imposed by a person/organisation. Sounds pretty much like
a Nazi nightmare.

2. The rules are employed by people themselves. But if so, why not
simply turn your limbic system off when you are tortured?

3. The rules are baked into the code in a cryptographically safe and
unalterable manner, so that even the person itself can't escape them.
But then, why would anyone opt to be uploaded in such a deliberately
crippled form?

That being said, why do you even want to escape mortality in this way?
It sounds like sentencing yourself to an eternal game of Dungeons and
Dragons with arbitrarily set rules and with no way to escape them and
experience the real world (which happens to have ability to copy as
one of its fundamental features).



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