[ExI] Be nice to leftists

[spike]

>… On Behalf Of Jukka Liukkonen



 

2014-06-04 5:38 GMT+03:00 Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com>:

On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:

 

Jukk can speak for me too.  I have directed several supposed conservatives to politicalcompass.org where they have taken the little test only to find that they are somewhat on the left, mainly because of social issues.​..

 

### Leftist is as leftists do. The leftist elite consistently acts in direct contravention of the lofty ideals that Jukka adduced. To the contrary, their actions betray an obsession with status, and hypocrisy… 

 

>…My summarization was based on actual of evidence, I've seen having being undertaken by several leftist stakeholders in several countries. They are the ideals of the contemporary left wing to which modern left wing organizations aspire to…All the best, Jukka

 

 

 

It is easy enough to see that both ends (and everywhere in between) on the political spectrum can write manifestos of lofty visions and ideals without the means to make it reality.  I see both sides espousing admirable notions, then taking actions which work against their realization.

 

OK then, let us look at transhumanism in light of a vision for the medium and long term future please.  Then we can assess which side of the political spectrum is best able to deliver our own long-term future vision for humanity, without getting tangled in the messy webs of commonplace reality in our own short time span on this planet.

 

Where do you see humanity in 100 years?

 

You may assume away the singularity if you wish, or interpret the question at your convenience.

 

Where in 1000 years?

 

Cro Magnon goes back about 50k years by reasonable estimates, so where will humanity or life or intelligence be 50ky hence?

 

Homo Sapiens is about a couple million years on this planet, so where will we be in another couple million?

 

Here’s my best guesses:

 

Humanity may have another great struggle ahead, before the singularity, so in a century, we may still be fighting over water and space to park ground-based solar panels as we scratch the last of the coal out of the ground.  I recognize this is a grim forecast, and I hope someone can talk me out of it.

 

By 1000 years, the singularity must have occurred if it is possible, and I firmly believe it is.

 

So by 50ky, life on earth and in this solar system will consist of super-organized matter, where all or nearly all the available metals will be transformed into some type of thinking matter.

 

By 2MegaY future, our mind children will be spreading throughout the galaxy.

 

For an interesting exercise, talk to normal people.  Ask them about long-term future visions.  Their answers will help explain their current views with regard to politics.

 

spike

 

 

 

 

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