[ExI] Be nice to leftists

[Omar Rahman]

> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:53:10 -0400
> From: Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [ExI] Be nice to leftists
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> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Omar Rahman <rahmans at me.com> wrote:
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>> Um, 'law produced privately'? What kind of law is it if it is private to
>> you? You wouldn't happen to want to actually ENFORCE those laws on others
>> against their wills, would you? I guess then it would be your private force
>> vs the private force of those you declare 'law breakers'. Sounds like the
>> law of the jungle, might makes right etc.
>> 
> 
> ### Read up on private law, come back when you have something relevant to
> say.
> 

Actually I HAVE said something; that private law sounds like it would represent those who wrote it and only those who adopted it. It is by its nature exclusionary thus rendering those who do not adopt it (or are even unaware of it) beneath/outside the law. I have also said that these laws will have to be enforced at some point which leads to a 'might makes right' sort of situation.

Your response seems to be that I should look around for arguments to support your case. Why don't you explain for yourself how 'private law' doesn't instantly devolve into some sort of fascism?

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>> Again though, circular reasoning. This is the 'goto' of discussion by the
>> way. Here is how it works:
>> 
>> 10 government is what corrupts law
>> 20 monopoly of force is a crappy way of doing computation
>> 30 crappy computation corrupts everything it touches
>> 40 goto 10
>> 
>> You see? Your conclusion is not significantly different from your premiss.
>> (We will leave aside how flawed your premiss is for now.) (We will also do
>> our best to gloss over the fact that statements 20 and 30 are either also
>> premisses or non sequiturs.)
>> 
> 
> ### Your difficulty in reading prose probably explains a lot. You seem to
> miss the cues that differentiate a thesis, an exposition and a restatement.
> An argument is frequently presented in this order.
> 
> Rafal

You describe a sort of essay format. Your original two sentence post functions even less well as a typically '5 paragraph' essay as it served as a supposedly logical argument. Your sarcasm is substandard as well.

Regards,

Omar Rahman

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