[ExI] hard science

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun May 4 16:37:16 UTC 2014


> Consider the software based intelligences which claim to be self-aware.
 I think they are lying.

> Well, some are lying. If the sense of self is physical and NOT
> informational process, then all of them are lying. I think however, it's an
> informational process to be self-aware, too. So some are telling us the
> truth. They are magnificent and they are feeling good.
>
> ​Just how would anyone know that a machine is self-aware?  We can't even
> prove that another person is self-aware (and we can't prove that people in
> a coma are not aware of something even if it's just their subjective
> experience - unless there is no function above the hindbrain).  Psychology
> (and philosophy) is full of this crap:  do others experience the same
> things we do?  Unanswerable question ('probably not' is the best we can
> do).  We might as well ask those women who have additional color vision
> what they see that we can't.​  bill w
>
>
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