[ExI] How the world collapses

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat May 31 13:28:19 UTC 2014


Well, it is going to take awhile for these people to die, eh?  At least it
will slow the rate of increase in mortality age.

As for chemicals, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, as we
know.

wfw


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Anders Sandberg <anders at aleph.se> wrote:

> William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> , 28/5/2014 2:09 AM:
>
> ​When it comes to health, it is worth noticing that the health of people
> in developed countries (where we likely have the richest mix of molecules)
> is increasing and far better than in counties where we can expect a more
> 'natural' environment (Anders)
>
> That is doomed to fall, given the horrendous epidemic in obesity, which is
> increasing in every country that is eating a Western diet.
>
>
> Maybe... obesity and the accompanying metabolic syndrome are pretty bad
> for health. But the impact doesn't seem to have showed up in life
> expectancy yet:
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=sp_dyn_le00_in&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:USA:MEX:JPN:NOR&ifdim=region&tstart=549327600000&tend=1338332400000&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false
> Here I plotted two high obesity countries - US and Mexico - and two low
> obesity countries - Japan and Norway. While obesity might be part of the
> explanation of why US and Mexico are below Norway and Japan, the level of
> obesity has been growing exponentially during this period, yet life
> expectancy is still going up linearly:
>
> http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/www/external/health/feature/forty/images/obesity_large.jpg
> Looking at the impact of obesity on life expectancy in US states shows
> that it does reduce it by a few years
> http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~branderr/usamed/avg_life_vs_obesity.png
> - but it might be that the trend towards stronger life expectancy is
> bigger than this decrement.
>
>
>
> Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of Oxford
> University
>
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