[ExI] [tt] Identity thread again

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On 10 April 2015 at 07:05, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Anders Sandberg <anders at aleph.se> wrote:
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>> John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> , 9/4/2015 6:18 PM:
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>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015  William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Is there now or will there ever be a perfect hard drive/storage device?
>> > No.  Then, no perfect copy.
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>> If perfection is required then "you" become a completely different person
>> every time "you" drink a cup of coffee and the entire idea of personal
>> identity, as well as personal pronouns like "you", become meaningless.
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>> Bateson said "Information is the difference that makes the difference". A
>> lot of questions about whether two things are the same can only be answered
>> by looking at what makes a difference.
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>> Also, thanks to Shannon's work on coding theory, we know that information
>> can be transmitted down noisy channels in ways that result in it having
>> arbitrarily low probability of being distorted. We do not need perfect hard
>> drives to make storage that doesn't lose a single bit over the history of
>> the universe. RAID for the win.
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>> Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of Oxford
>> University
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> Even Mother Nature doesn't make identical twins genetically identical, and
> it does make a difference, though the idea that drinking a cup of coffee
> makes me an entirely different person is a bit over the top, isn't it?
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> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/
> bill w

You're different from moment to moment and yet you still feel you are
the same person, so any duplicating device would just have to match
the level of fidelity of ordinary life.

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Stathis Papaioannou