[ExI] Zombie glutamate

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Sat Feb 14 22:40:31 UTC 2015

> On 15 Feb 2015, at 9:18 am, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015  Brent Allsop <brent.allsop at canonizer.com> wrote:
>> > Tomaz, William, and many others, it seems to me from what they say, still don't understand what a redness quale is or is not.
> You keep saying stuff like that but I would maintain that there is not a single member of this list who believes that redness and electromagnetic waves with a wavelength of  650 nm are the same thing. And they didn't need your paper to figure it out.
>> > how can you prove to everyone, qualitatively, experimentally, whether it is system structure
> You can't. You can't prove anything about consciousness to a third party and so obsessing over it is a lot like video games, a complete waste of time.

What you can prove is that IF a being is conscious THEN its functional equivalent would also be conscious. This implies that consciousness is a necessary side-effect of certain types of behaviour.
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