[ExI] Zombie glutamate
protokol2020 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 15 11:17:45 UTC 2015
So, my precious consciousness (with no irony here) can likely be almost too
Maybe inside a computer not more complex than this PC. Maybe a bigger
computer _is_ required, I don't know. Maybe a very simple one, like the
Monte, the no-so-smart phone, I had.
Maybe even simpler? Might be. Might be also MUCH more complicated than
today's largest computer or than the Internet. It's a possibility.
But at the end, it's "just" a Turing machine model. And it can apparently
causes the consciousness I know.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com>
> > in your brain that is not Turing emulable.
> It's a small chance, that in fact it is so! That something more is going
> on. Not only inside our heads, but elsewhere as well.
> I bet, however, on the other option. That nothing inside this world is
> Trans-Turing. Maybe more efficiently done, but not essentially different.
> This is my current best bet. Waiting for the Minerva's owl to fly.
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com>
>> > On 15 Feb 2015, at 8:26 pm, Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com>
>> > I am very sure, that you can have a Turing machine in any form you
>> want. From Lego, to electronics, to old steam locomotive on a long rails
>> picking up stones and laying them down in a Turing machine fashion ... as
>> long as this machine performs a good enough simulation of my current brain,
>> I will feel as I am writing this.
>> I agree, but it has to be carefully justified. It is possible that there
>> is physics in your brain that is not Turing emulable. It is also on the
>> face of it possible that your consciousness is due to biological processes
>> in your brain and that a computer simulation may behave like you but won't
>> have your consciousness. On further analysis, this turns out to be false.
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