[ExI] Zombie glutamate

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 17:23:09 UTC 2015


On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Suppose there is a gross change in your consciousness as a result of the
> replacement. If you are conscious then you should notice and be able to
> report the change. But the replacement results in normal output to all of
> your brain, including the part that would notice a change and then send
> output to your speech centre. So if there is a change in
> your consciousness, the change will either go unnoticed or, if noticed,
> you will be unable to report it and will have to watch helplessly as your
> vocal cords say everything is normal.
>

Then you would know from direct experience something about your
consciousness that nobody else knows, namely that although the replacement
part reproduces all the inputs and outputs that can be measured in the lab
there must be at least one I/O that can't be measured; and you'd also have
proof that consciousness is not a byproduct of intelligence and that
Darwin's theory was wrong, but unfortunately that proof would be available
only to you. But this is not a new situation, you don't need exotic thought
experiments, in real everyday life you know things with a certainty that
goes beyond mere proof about your consciousness, but although you know it's
true you have no way to prove it to others with mathematical rigor.

  John K Clark





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