[ExI] SETI for Post Singularity Civs
BillK
pharos at gmail.com
Fri Jan 23 09:49:21 UTC 2015
On 23 January 2015 at 08:02, Tomaz Kristan wrote:
> This is true. But not only the absence of some artificial structures, even
> the presence of the natural matter in the form of stars and galaxies is a
> strong evidence that nobody very smart is out there.
>
> Had been an advanced civilization anywhere around us, it would have made
> some preventions against supernovae. Against some future aggressive aliens
> and all other possible calamities. I mean, we can't tolerate Betelgeuse for
> much longer. It will explode in our faces soon. We have to dismantle it, if
> this is still possible, if the explosion has not already happened.
>
> The presence of the natural stars alone, is the proof of the absence of the
> intelligent civilizations. However odd it may sound, it's true.
>
I agree, but.......
Supernovae are required to create the heavy elements in the universe.
If you shut them off, then future life probably won't develop.
If pre-singularity ET life exists, then it is likely still bound to
the originating planet, like humans. And there may be a lot of early
life, like bacteria, on many planets.
If fast thinking AI exists, then we are in a new ball game. What we
think likely doesn't apply to them.
They don't manipulate the physical universe. They probably move into
deep space. They don't broadcast their presence. Why would they? The
physical universe appears frozen and unchanging to them. Their
interests are in the virtual reality they have created for themselves.
Even if humans survive our singularity we probably won't contact other
fast-thinkers. We will live in our own virtual reality, far from
planetary systems.
BillK
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