[ExI] nutrition - phthlates

[William Flynn Wallace]

Data are suspect to begin with. Singling out "industry" to be distrusted is
manipulative.
rafal

As you may have noticed if you read the article I posted the other day, you
know that my own field of psychology is under attack for bad data, poor
replication and so on.  So I am not singling out industry.  Therefore I
agree with your first sentence above.

But to smear any gov regulation with the epithet 'thugs', well, I'll just
let that speak for itself to other members of this group.

bill w

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Rafal Smigrodzki <
rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:54 AM, William Flynn Wallace <
> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> As for making ad hominem charges against the researchers, that's done by
>> both sides.  How often has industry resisted regulation against things that
>> turned out to be really bad?  Industry data is suspect to begin with.
>>
>
> ### Yeah, exactly, how often has industry resisted regulation of things
> that turned out to be really bad? Can you name examples? (aside from
> tobacco) How many thousands of examples can you adduce? Hundreds? Dozens?
> Compared to how many millions of products that are on the market? How many
> specific examples of substance regulation have unequivocally positive net
> effects on human welfare?
>
> Data are suspect to begin with. Singling out "industry" to be distrusted
> is manipulative.
>
>
>>
>> Bottom line:  we cannot trust any industry to regulate itself.  Most drug
>> studies are paid for by the drug companies, right?  Suspect any bias there?​
>>
>> ​  Way too much money involved.  This is an area that should lead us to
>> spend more money funding independent research institutes.
>>
>
> ### We cannot trust anybody, and certainly not government thugs, to
> regulate any industry. "Regulating" is usually a way of attacking workers
> under the pretense of protecting the public, and there is just too much
> money and power to be gained doing that.
>
>
> Rafał
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