[ExI] I Miss The King of Extropia
Dave Sill
sparge at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 14:56:25 UTC 2016
Does this good or sustainable to you?
http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/spending_chart_1792_2020USb_17s2li011lcn_H0t
-Dave
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 10:27 AM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
> wrote:
> I sure can explain it to you. If an entity continues to spend more than
> it takes in, and does it long enough, that entity will eventually go bust.
> spike
>
> Well, how about those who say that we have been in debt since 1835? And
> what does GDP have to do with it? And what about the article? Debt is a
> good thing? I understand what you say, but it seems that that is
> irrelevant somehow. I am with you and it scares me.
>
> bill w
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, William Flynn Wallace <
> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I sure can explain it to you. If an entity continues to spend more than
>> it takes in, and does it long enough, that entity will eventually go bust.
>> spike
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 6:07 AM, rex <rex at nosyntax.net> wrote:
>>
>>> spike <spike66 at att.net> [2016-07-17 16:30]:
>>> >
>>> > >... On Behalf Of rex
>>> > Subject: Re: [ExI] I Miss The King of Extropia
>>> >
>>> > spike <spike66 at att.net> [2016-07-17 10:20]:
>>> > >
>>> > >>... That argument only applies to about six states. If we want
>>> to go with the
>>> > > pragmatic argument, one can check the opinion polls in one’s
>>> state the
>>> > > week before the election, then if it isn’t within the margin of
>>> error, the
>>> > > outcome is certain and one gets to vote however they want without
>>> fear of
>>> > > contributing to the winner’s margin.
>>> >
>>> > >...MoE is merely an arbitrary number, typically 0.95. All it means is
>>> that the outcome is expected to be within that confidence internal (95% or
>>> whatever) 95% of the time. This also means that it's expected to be outside
>>> the MoE 5% of the time. It does NOT mean the outcome is certain. -rex
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi Rex, ok sure. Everyone is free to decide what is the appropriate
>>> margin and for which candidate. The new question becomes: what is the
>>> requisite pre-election poll margin before one feels free to vote for the
>>> candidate he or she thinks is the best one?
>>>
>>> How many elections have been decided by a single vote?
>>>
>>> -rex
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