[ExI] effective charity, was: RE: bees again

[William Flynn Wallace]

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 2:47 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 10:54 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] bees again
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> >>…Ja!  Our current USA system of bifurcated right/left politics makes
> for some odd bedfellows indeed.  I am surprised that conservatives and
> conservation do not seem to go together all that much.  The natural-is-good
> crowd if anything seem to lean left as a group.  That seems so paradoxical
> to me.  Clearly this whole salad needs to be tossed and remixed.  This is
> the year to do it.
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> >…So - it's just not enough.  And I have no answers to how to get people
> to sell their yachts and 20 million dollar houses…
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> That in itself introduces a new paradox.  For people to sell their yachts
> and 20 million dollar houses requires someone still richer to buy them.  So
> then…  how does that help?
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> >…or even just to give a bit each month for world hunger, etc…
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> Anders Sandberg is a man I hope will chime in on that comment.  He is
> active in the Effective Altruism movement, which I find intriguing.  You
> don’t even need to be rich to contribute to that.  From what I can tell
> from reading their lit, a lot of it is smart tech-oriented people coming up
> with mathematical functions to figure out how to make each dollar given to
> world hunger do the most good.
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> >…  Salvation Army a big exception - those people are serious about their
> charity…bill w
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> Second that.  Of all the local charities, I give to that one because it
> appears to have a good record for actually giving the money and not
> worrying much about building an organization.
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> But think about it, for it is not an easy question at all.  We know and
> have seen that some kinds of charity does harm.  We know that in some
> places in the globe where agriculture is a constant struggle, importing
> food smashes the local market and puts out of business.
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> Charity has to be done with a brain as well as with a heart.
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