[ExI] Sanders, Clinton and Trump

[William Flynn Wallace]

sorry

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> One flaw Trump doesn't have is lack of confidence, I think he sincerely
> believes he has the solutions to all the world's problems and all the
> solutions are simple quick direct and audacious.  john
>
> ​I think we don't know what he believes.  If he is a demagogue, as I
think, he is just appealing to, to put it mildly, rather unintelligent and
uninformed voters, who do think solutions are simple.  He is on a roll -
his attacks and mad schemes are winning.  I don't think Trump is as
simple-minded as John's second sentence above states.  But we just don't
know and hope we will never find out.  How successful he is as a business
man is debatable, but he has to be somewhat above average to do what he has
done (and yes, he has gone bankrupt four times, but that may be fairly
common in his highly speculative world).

bill w​


> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 11:19 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To my mind the worst thing Hillary Clinton ever did wasn't Benghazi
>> ​ ​
>> and it certainly wasn't the silly Email business, it was voting in favor
>> of the Iraq War in 2002 when she was a Senator. That was stupid but in her
>> defence it was stupid within normal parameters, and although it pains me to
>> admit it if I were in her place in 2002 I would have made the same mistake.
>> But with Donald Trump we have an entirely new sort of stupid. No American
>> President has ever encouraged any country to develop nuclear weapons not
>> even Briton, but Trump wants
>> ​​
>> to encourage at least 5
>> ​ countries​
>> , INCLUDING SAUDI ARABIA
>> ​. Trump says that "very very soon" after he becomes president he will
>> destroy ISIS, the only hint he gives on how he intends to do this is he
>> won't rule out using nuclear weapons against them, nor rule out using them
>> in Europe because "Europe is a big place". Is this just bluster, is Trump
>> just making noises with his mouth? I don't know, maybe it's just hot air, I
>> hope so, but I don't want to stake my life on it. One flaw Trump doesn't
>> have is lack of confidence, I think he sincerely believes he has the
>> solutions to all the world's problems and all the solutions are simple
>> quick direct and audacious. Believing you're the smartest man in the world
>> is a bad thing if you're really as dumb as a sack of rocks, and it's even
>> worse if you're a world leader. The historic figures that remind me the
>> most of Trump are
>> Kaiser William II
>> ​ of Germany and ​
>> Mussolini
>> ​ in Italy, both were absolutely convinced they were brilliant. They
>> weren't.  ​
>>
>> As for Bernie Sanders, he doesn't want to build a stupid wall but he does
>> have a terrible anti free trade policy
>> ​,​
>> ​however ​
>> Trump has an almost identical and equally bad
>> ​ ​
>> anti free trade policy
>> ​ ​
>> so that cancels out.
>> ​ ​
>> But unlike Hillary Clinton
>> ​ ​
>> (and unlike me) Sanders was smart
>> ​ ​
>> enough
>> ​ ​
>> not to believe Bush when he said he had rock solid evidence that a
>> madman, Saddam Hussein, was
>> ​just ​
>> months or even weeks
>> ​away ​
>> from mass producing nuclear bombs. Sanders voted against the Iraq war in
>> 2002
>> ​,​
>> so if the election was between Trump and Sanders my decision would be
>> easy, I'd vote for Sanders. I think I could trust
>> ​ ​
>> Sanders with the nuclear launch codes, or at least as much as I can trust
>> anyone
>> ​ with that much power​
>> , but the thought of Trump getting his grubby little hands on
>> ​those codes​
>>  gives me nightmares.
>>
>> ​ John K Clark​
>>
>>
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