[ExI] cool article by shostak

[Stathis Papaioannou]

If the behaviour associated with emotions can be replicated by a computer,
the emotions should follow. Otherwise, we would be able to make a partial
philosophical zombie, which is logically problematic:

On 18 November 2016 at 02:15, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

>  It's intelligence that distinguishes us from the other animals and makes
> us human.   John
>
> It's a very fine line.  I like this analogy:  suppose a frog whose ability
> to jump is limited to 5 inches, vertically.  Then that frog is put at the
> bottom of a staircase in which each step is 6 inches.  Another frog who can
> jump 6 inches can go all the way to the top.
>
> So what looks like a huge qualitative difference between these two frogs
> is really a very small quantitative difference.
>
> Very fine line between us and apes.
>
> Is intelligence really just a quantitative thing, or are dozens of
> qualitative processes there too?  Emotions can vary quantitatively but the
> biggest feature of them is qualitative - anger is different from anxiety,
> for example.
>
> I wish I knew enough about AI to understand how they are going to program
> qualitative states into a computer.
>
> I wish someone knew enough about animal emotions for us to compare us to
> them.
>
> It would seem that emotions are a much more fuzzy topic than intelligence,
> but perhaps our definitions of intelligence just are too limited to
> appreciate the nonquantitative aspects of it.
>
> I am not trying to define what a human is, or just how we differ from
> lower animals.  I don't think we know enough for that yet.
>
> bill w
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:30 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ​> ​
>>> I agree with the logic of this article, but there's something
>>> missing.Yeah - it's the rest of what it means to be human: emotions and
>>> feelings and smells and tastes
>>
>>
>> ​That's not what makes us human, other creatures on this planet have been
>> able to feel and smell and taste for at least ​500 million years, they've
>> behaved as if they had emotions too. It's intelligence that distinguishes
>> us from the other animals and makes us human.
>>
>>
>>> ​> ​
>>> Would I give up those things for a higher IQ?  What do you think?
>>>
>>
>> ​I see no reason you couldn't have both.​
>>
>>
>>
>>> ​> ​
>>> If you would, you are as cold as the machines referred to in the article.
>>
>>
>> ​I think it would be easier, far easier, for us to make a emotional
>> machine ​that a intelligent, certainly Evolution found that to be the case.
>>
>>
>> ​John K Clark​
>>
>>
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