[ExI] now nanny state - Re: saving lives

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 26 16:44:59 UTC 2016

so every car should have a breathalyzer/sobriety test built in. Etc., etc.
 (Mary V see his full text below)


It's a problem which cannot be fully resolved - ever.  According to the
'your right to swing your fist stops where my nose starts', harm to mine
determines the right thing to do.  Until we can genetically program people
not to be stupid, we need laws.

I approve of breathalyzers on cars for people with dui records.  What else
could we do to make dangerous drivers stop being dangerous?  I dunno, but
whatever it is, I like it.  If people won't stop endangering others, then
what else can we do but put them in jail, keep them at home, and try other
things to restrain their tendencies.

You need a nanny when you cannot do it yourself.  That's what government is
- a collection of the will of the people.  What are the drug laws for?  To
stop people from endangering others.  Goes way too far, though.  Ditto most
other laws - for our protection which we cannot provide ourselves, like
testing our own meds.

So - a nanny state is congruent with libertarian principles.

your turn

bill w

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:12 AM, William Flynn Wallace <
> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, how about this:  a phone disabled from texting has an emergency
>> number which CAN be accessed by texting.
>> I suggest any call to 911 enables texting.
> Like I said, I'm sure there are cases I'm not considering.
> But outside of federally-mandating paying Apple to use a ridiculously
> obvious patent, as a libertarian I oppose all forms of nannying. Once we
> start up the slippery slope of technologically prohibiting risky behavior,
> were will it end? Studies show that even hands-free talking distracts
> drivers, so clearly that should be blocked. Excessive speed increases
> injuries and deaths, so speed limits should be enforced by cars. (Which
> self-driving cars will, no doubt, do.) Loud music makes it hard to hear
> emergency vehicles, so stereos should have a federally-specified maximum
> volume. Impaired driving kills and maims lots of people, so every car
> should have a breathalyzer/sobriety test built in. Etc., etc.
> -Dave
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