[ExI] video games take 2

[William Flynn Wallace]

bill k wrote:  When immersive VR arrives, putting on the headsets will
really be like entering a new
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world. When this is available it will become more and more difficult to
tear off the headset and return to the grey colourless real world.
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BillK, maybe you need to get out and do some planting so you'll have
something green to look at.  Now if we can tour the Louvre, go underwater
on coral reefs, stroll Japanese gardens and many others thing with VR, I
will definitely buy into that, as I can't do that in reality any more.

What Christian wrote is 100% psychologically healthy, I think.  What I
fear, for others, is that they will play games rather than have a life in
the world of trees and flowers and other people.  Retreating to video games
or other pursuits, as many social phobics do, is *just not healthy*.

Rather than play games, they need to develop social skills.  Again, I tend
to see this as a problem in a teen who isn't 'with it'.  They need to be
dragged, kicking and screaming, if necessary, into the world of people to
develop those social skills necessary for most of us to to those things
Tara listed for us.

Are video games good or bad?  YES!!

bill w




On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 AM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5 August 2017 at 01:37, William Flynn Wallace wrote:
> > As a libertarian I must add that I have no objection at all to anyone
> > playing any sort of game, video or otherwise.  If someone wants to set a
> > record at Pacman as their life's goal, then he has my respect as human
> > being, of course, but no respect whatsoever otherwise.  If, as Adrian
> says,
> > a sort of glory can be achieved this way, then go for it, as it is likely
> > the only sort he (and the occasional she) will achieve with that brain.
> > Flaunting this success as a pickup line will, I am sure, meet with  total
> > awe on the part of the women he tries it on, though perhaps not the right
> > sort of awe.
> >
> > As a psychologist I would have some suspicions about such a person who
> seems
> > to want to rot his brain and develop no new neurons at all, but it's his
> > brain.
> >
> > As a transhumanist I suggest that this is not at all the sort of person
> we
> > want to develop - I suspect I will get no flak over this opinion.
> >
> <snip>
> >
>
> Pacman and Solitaire are 5 minutes of relaxation and are not relevant
> to the virtual universe games that millions of people spend many hours
> playing.
>
> See: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMORPG>
> for more information.
>
> This is a huge industry, both in money and number of players.
>
> Quote:
> The global media and entertainment market has consistently been on the
> rise. The entire worldwide market is projected to grow from an
> estimated 1.72 trillion U.S. dollars in 2015 to 2.14 trillion U.S.
> dollars within five years. Gaming is an integral and ever-developing
> segment of this market. The two largest gaming regions, Asia Pacific
> and North America, are predicted to account for 78 percent of global
> revenues in 2017. Online gaming in particular is one of the branches
> that has evolved over the past decades. It includes social gaming,
> mobile gaming, as well as free-to-play and pay-to-play massively
> multiplayer gaming, otherwise know as MMO gaming. The latter two
> segments combined generated revenue of roughly 19.9 billion U.S.
> dollars in 2016 and, judging by the data volume of global online
> gaming traffic alone, which is forecast to grow from 126 petabytes in
> 2016 to 568 petabytes in 2020, it is safe to assume online gaming is
> here to stay.
> ----------------------
>
>
> As Christian mentioned, these games are also social games where
> friends chat, form alliances, combat opposing groups, plan campaigns,
> etc.  They are becoming more and more like a 'better' version of
> real-life, involving real people communicating with each other.
>
> And at this stage these games are played on screens. When immersive VR
> arrives, putting on the headsets will really be like entering a new
> world. When this is available it will become more and more difficult
> to tear off the headset and return to the grey colourless real world.
>
> BillK
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