[ExI] alpha zero

[Tomaz Kristan]

Like spike, I also think something hasn't been told or at least something
hasn't been emphasized as it should be.

But if it's not today, it will be in a year or two. Doesn't really matter.
(What does matter, is that the Singularity is closer than ever.)

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Dylan Distasio <interzone at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you would be surprised at how little code is actually there if we
> could see the source code.  Tensorflow does a lot of heavy lifting in terms
> of abstracting neural nets, and the secret sauce in the recipe is the
> trained weights of the net.  There is very little conventional code beyond
> setting up the structure of the neural net and the reinforcement
> objectives.  Training on 77 million simulated games is the key.
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> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:15 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
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>> *From:* spike [mailto:spike66 at att.net]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 07, 2017 10:53 AM
>> *To:* 'ExI chat list' <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: [ExI] alpha zero
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>> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
>> <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org>] *On Behalf Of *spike
>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] alpha zero
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>> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
>> <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org>] *On Behalf Of *John Clark
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>> ​>>>​…I still haven’t convinced myself it is true. spike
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>> >>…If this is a hoax it's a very elaborate one the likes of which we
>> haven't seen since the cold fusion fiasco. ​…John K Clark ​
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>> >…Ja I could have clarified my doubt a bit.  I don’t suspect an
>> intentional hoax, rather something they neglected to tell us…spike
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>> There is something else.  If someone writes a chess-playing program today
>> that defeats the best effort of the best humans for 500 years, that has
>> been done.  According to the article, what Alpha Zero has done is defeat
>> the collective programming efforts of armies of professional programmers
>> working with huge monetary rewards for the past 75 years, which is far more
>> impressive than overpowering humans in chess.
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>> Something is still not being told here methinks.
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>> spike
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