[ExI] Bell's Inequality
atymes at gmail.com
Sun Jan 1 00:48:59 UTC 2017
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Jason Resch <jasonresch at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Jason Resch <jasonresch at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > MW is falsifiable because QM is
>> > falsifiable.
>> We were talking about the difference between MWI and superposition,
>> and that not being falsifiable. QM being falsifiable is irrelevant to
>> "MWI or superposition or something else".
> The theory that all the parts of the superposition go away when observed,
> except for one, is an extension (the collapse postulate) added to vanilla
> QM, the math of which contains no such provision for parts of the
> superposition disappearing when observed.
As is the theory that the other parts of the superposition were real
and continue to exist forever, just somehow shifting to some other
"world" that did not exist before that moment. QM contains no
provision for any of that.
> A conspiracy is required, for the statistics to match the predictions of QM
> in a superdetermined world
No conspiracy is required for things to be the way they are.
Did the sky conspire to be blue when it is sunny and clear? Did water
conspire to be wet? It does not matter that you or I observe these
things. These things were, with no thought to who would observe them,
and then we observed them.
> and to rob all agents of control over their
As noted at length previously, superdeterminism is not necessarily
incompatible with free will, so no such robbing is postulated.
If you claim it isn't, you admit to not having read what I have
written in this thread, and thus confirm that you have no intention of
> Gottfried Leibniz's theory of pre-established harmony
is not what I am arguing, even if there are some similarities. That
you would make such a leap is dishonest and insulting - not to
mention, it causes you to believe things about other people that are
not true, therefore making such assumptions diminishes you. Please
stop hurting yourself.
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