[ExI] Betting on the end of the world

Dan TheBookMan danust2012 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 02:35:25 UTC 2017

On Jan 17, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2017/01/my_end-of-the-w.html
> If that's what it takes to save the world, then I for one consider the
> world saved.

I'm it sure their bet will save the world. ;)

> And with that addressed, can we go on to addressing more likely ways
> humanity can use AI to mess itself up unintentionally?  For example,
> this unemployment issue - is it possible to develop robo-missionaries
> who can go among the great displaced populations, to the many
> neighborhoods and small towns that are numerous in contrast to our
> small number (setting aside the matter of identifying the small
> fraction it would be unsafe for us to enter)?  Maybe preach to them
> the ways and value of technical and vocational education, and
> enlighten them into the wealth-generating portion of the labor force?
> And while doing so, reveal to them how to spot and see through the
> many deceptions their would-be masters have plied them with, and
> beseech them to abandon their hate of other peoples who are not in
> fact to blame for their misery?
> I do not just mean some next generation chatbot, though that might be
> a start.  Perhaps a step up might be a limited version of a Turing
> Test: based on the very short chain of posts typical of a comments
> thread, have the bot be indistinguishable from (at worst) a human
> troll.  (Any organization capable of developing this is very unlikely
> to be using it to promote the echo chambers currently seen in the
> wild, therefore we can conclude this is probably not happening today.)
> Bonus points if, in most posts, it links to evidence for its
> counterpoint.
> But to truly have a massive effect, engagement with people offline is
> likely to be required.  That requires a chassis to go and talk to
> them, and one which they are willing to talk to.  A video screen on
> wheels is not a serious effort at this, no matter what its backers
> say.

There's an idea, though xenophobic-inclined folks might get suspicious of anyone or anything spouting ideas they don't like. Kind of like now when I try to talk to Trumpsters, they're first take us to call me an ideological purist (as if that's a great crime) and then shout me down. (Of course, an indefatigable AI or n would likely do orders of magnitude better than me with orders of magnitude more people.)


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