[ExI] pest - aside: RE: Universal basic income

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 14:56:12 UTC 2017

That's why you have
never heard of anyone perishing from devouring unwashed fruit.


Check out the cancer rate outside the US on farms.  They can use chemicals
that our farmers are not allowed to use and the death rate is high.  Not
all of those are banned for import.  And some are in the fruit and cannot
be washed off.

BTW - around here we rinse off the soap!  Much harder to do with our soft

bill w

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 6:51 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Adrian Tymes
> ...
> >...I'd need to see the specifics, but it's possible the peaches were
> treated with pesticides such that they'd kill the pickers if (as would
> surely happen) the pickers ate them without washing and other measures the
> retail-grade peaches got...
> A side note on pesticide: the ones used on fruit are not toxic to humans.
> They use saponifiers and surfactants.  These coat the bug and slay them,
> because it causes liquid to coat their surfaces.  You and I do that every
> day in the shower with the soap.  It doesn't harm us because we do not
> breathe through our skin.
> A powerful demonstration was when a guy took a glass of alar (used to slay
> apple moths) on live TV and drank it.  He demonstrated that is it
> chemically
> not much different from any other kind of soap.  You can wash your dishes
> in
> alar if you wish; it won't hurt you, unless you are an insect.
> Paradoxically, this introduces new risks to farmers, because it makes them
> careless in handling some classes of pesticides, a few of which damn sure
> are a problem if the concentration is sufficiently high.  It isn't toxic,
> but is thought to be related to some forms of cancer.  That's why you have
> never heard of anyone perishing from devouring unwashed fruit.
> spike
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