[ExI] brave new world in education

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 27 18:21:03 UTC 2017


On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:30 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
>
>> Also in the past week we have discussed the value of a liberal arts
>> education.  I do recognize that debate rages, but at the same time I will
>> make the claim that a liberal arts education is of little value to a
>> company
>> in a desperate race to compete in low cost access to space or programming
>> the latest robot toy.  They don't need that degree and do not want to pay
>> for it.
>>
>
> They don't need that for the worker bees that'll first be replaced by
> robots and AIs. They'll wish that their technical and managerial leaders
> had it because it gives them a solid foundation in critical thinking,
> communication, etc. As a parent or student deciding on trade school vs.
> liberal arts education, the former is more for average students/thinkers
> who want/need a "safe" route to a likely good-paying job (modulo AI/robot
> displacement) and the latter is more for excellent students who want to
> hone the skills necessary for a career that can change the future. Think of
> it as choosing between the Steve Wozniak path or the Steve Jobs path. As a
> techie I admire Wozniak's achievements but it was Jobs who had the vision
> that changed the world. We're not far from a Wozniak-level AI but a
> Jobs-level AI is basically inconceivable.
>
> Pondering the future of education, the biggest change coming is likely a
>> rapid expansion in the options for certifying specific skills, analogous
>> to
>> taking state boards exams for a professional engineer's license.  Is not
>> that the biggest coming revolution in education?
>>
>
> The certification route would certainly be more efficient/faster/cheaper
> than the current "4+-year degree followed by work experience" method. But
> outcompeting AIs is only going to be an option for a pretty small time
> slice.
>
> -Dave
>

​Are you saying, Dave, that the 'worker bees' have no use for the degrees,
or that the company has no use for those with them compared to ones who
don't?  I am pretty sure that you are saying the latter, but want to
confirm.  bill w​

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